Dec 13, 2008

Getting to Club Bath

Photo by Macoy.

It’s one thing to say that the address of Club Bath is #2456 F.B. Harrison St., Pasay City, but it’s definitely a different thing actually finding it. However, basing on the fact that one of my readers found it means that it’s quite easy to go to Club Bath. But for those of you who need more guidance, then continue reading on!

Check out the photo above to see how Club Bath looks from the outside along F.B. Harrison. There’s actually no indication that this mansion houses a bath house inside it, lending it a very discreet air. The entrance is at the side (to the left of the photo) along Valhalla Street while to the right is Moana Street. Club Bath is located very near the Pasay City Hall to the south, while Libertad is within walking distance to the north where at the intersection there is a Chowking outlet. Some people like to eat at here after having fun in CB. The nearby Andok’s Restaurant is another frequented place.

Shown below are maps highlighting the location of Club Bath. The first one depicts northern Pasay between EDSA and Buendia while the second map zooms in for a closer look.

Bringing your own car

It’s quite safe to bring your own car to the area. The location is well-lit and it’s not a seedy place at all. It would be best to ask the guard on duty where to park. The usual parking areas are beside the mansion along Valhalla and Moana streets and secondary parking areas are along the buildings leading towards Libertad. Warning: do not try to park along Valhalla, Moana, or Pasadena streets past the gates. The local barangay has a curfew and they close the gates late at night, which could get your car trapped inside.

If you’re coming from EDSA, the landmark to watch for to know F.B. Harrison is the diagonal MMDA footbridge spanning EDSA at the intersection. F.B. Harrison is also the street just before the neon-lighted Pasay Edsa International Entertainment Complex. If you’re coming from Buendia, F.B. Harrison is the major street where jeepneys turn into.

Taking public transportation

If you plan to go there by taxi, the best landmark to give the driver is the Pasay City Hall. You can have yourself dropped at the City Hall and just walk to CB, or you can stop at CB itself.

There’s also a jeepney route passing along F.B. Harrison. These are the routes that start at Pasay Rotonda (where the LRT-EDSA and the MRT-Taft stations are) and pass by F.B. Harrison going to Manila. If you’re coming from Manila, make sure that the jeepney passes by F.B. Harrison instead of Taft Avenue. If you’re coming from EDSA, you can either take the jeep at Pasay Rotonda or you can ride at the intersection of F.B. Harrison and EDSA—there are several jeepneys that stop here to wait for passengers. (This is also the place where you can get off an EDSA bus).


Mugen wrote on December 14, 2008 at 4:42 PM:

It's the same picture that lead me to that place! Hehe.

Mac Callister wrote on December 17, 2008 at 11:14 PM:

wow that is one detailed info about the place but i think it will be fun going there just to experience it hehe.thanks for that it helps a lot!

Anonymous wrote on December 20, 2008 at 7:05 AM:

Haha! Ginawa talaga akong reference. Actually, sa wikimapia ko din hinanap yung place.

- Jay

macoy wrote on January 7, 2009 at 6:41 AM:

bad influence pala yang picture na yan hehe. miss ko na cb. hehe

Vince wrote on January 19, 2009 at 11:03 PM:

Mugen, I read your entry last month and I realized precisely that! :-) That was also the time I understood the title of your Club Bath series of posts.

Mac Callister, glad you found it useful!

Jay, hehehe. I also agree that Wikimapia is quite useful.

Macoy, thanks for taking that picture. I wanted to take my own picture one time but the guard was looking and I chickened out. Hehehe. Miss mo na CB? Tara! :-P

Anonymous wrote on December 22, 2009 at 3:58 PM:

Bukas pa ba ang "The Mansion"? Pano pumunta dun?

Anonymous wrote on May 6, 2010 at 10:23 AM:

the mansion is still open

Jhe-jhe wrote on August 8, 2010 at 1:06 AM:

hmmm What can i expect for the first timer to visit CB..

Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on August 9, 2010 at 12:14 AM:

@Jhe-jhe, try this article.

Anonymous wrote on September 21, 2010 at 8:36 AM:

Can I have the address of "The Mansion"?

Anonymous wrote on December 14, 2010 at 8:40 PM:

going to Club Bath is an easy way to commit suicide. It's a hub of discreet HIV positive, a friend of mine just got his there. Damn place!

Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on December 20, 2010 at 12:25 AM:

@Anon (Dec 14), basing on your comments on this and another post, it seems that you have something against Club Bath.

If you want to help fight HIV-AIDS, then fear-mongering does nothing productive.

Anonymous wrote on May 17, 2011 at 1:10 PM:

i went to club bath last may 8, and i had a real good time. but what i want to share with you is what happened after.
paglabas ko ng CB, lakad ako ppunta 7eleven napansin ko yung security gurad na nakatingin sa akin. i smiled at him then he approached me. he asked saan ako galing. i told him and he was shocked & became curious. i then started looking at him bulge. he let me touched it. wala sya underwear. to make the long story short, dinala nya ako sa 2nd floor where we had quikie sex. we did "69" ...if anyone is interested,i will give you his mobile#

Anonymous wrote on May 17, 2011 at 10:00 PM:

.if anyone is interested,i will give you his mobile#

Bon soir anonymous! Your story's interesting, specially the ending. I hope to experience it...

Anonymous wrote on May 18, 2011 at 3:01 PM:

...if anyone is interested,i will give you his mobile#...

curious lang po ako. security guard po ba ng aling establishment?

Anonymous wrote on May 19, 2011 at 9:01 AM:

"if anyone is interested" --sorry, kulang guard nung katabing building mismo..., yung may bakeshop, internet cafe', etc......

he has big horny...

Anonymous wrote on May 19, 2011 at 5:01 PM:

can tell to us the story mukang maganda ha hehehe

Anonymous wrote on May 19, 2011 at 5:02 PM:

and un number din pala nau ha daming nahihiyang kunin hahaha

Anonymous wrote on May 19, 2011 at 5:21 PM:

"if anyone is interested" --sorry, kulang guard nung katabing building mismo..., yung may bakeshop, internet cafe', etc......

he has big horny...

Merci, je comprend (thank you, i got it.). What about his number too?

Anonymous wrote on May 20, 2011 at 12:38 PM:

punta ako club bath this sunday... ibigay ko yung number nung security guard...
i would even introduce you guys sa SG...

3-4 nasa 7 eleven ako..pasok ako 4pm sa CB..

Anonymous wrote on May 20, 2011 at 3:35 PM:

punta ako club bath this sunday... ibigay ko yung number nung security guard...
i would even introduce you guys sa SG...

3-4 nasa 7 eleven ako..pasok ako 4pm sa CB..

merci aussi! (thanks!) how to identify you monsieur in the 7-Eleven shop on Sunday? pls let me know. thanks!


Anonymous wrote on May 21, 2011 at 12:13 PM:


i will be at 7eleven near CB tomorrow, sunday, may 22, 3-4pm

look for a shaved head guy..that's gonna be me..!

Anonymous wrote on May 21, 2011 at 2:19 PM:


i will be at 7eleven near CB tomorrow, sunday, may 22, 3-4pm

look for a shaved head guy..that's gonna be me..!

Hello there! Je porte une chemise depouille de polo (striped tshirt) et les pantalons de jean noir (black denim jeans). Just approach me so we can acknowledge each other. Merci aussi!

Anonymous wrote on May 21, 2011 at 9:07 PM:

Wow! Eyeball in the afternoon! Count me in people! Masubukan nga si guard...


Anonymous wrote on May 23, 2011 at 2:12 PM:

bukod po sa big tool, cute and attractive po ba yung SG? ano po # nya? :)

Anonymous wrote on June 9, 2011 at 9:50 PM:

meron bng nkkaalam ng white house n bath house sa pasay

Anonymous wrote on June 20, 2011 at 10:21 PM:

Alot of people lost there belongings Mobile phone ( iphone 4) The Managment is not doing anything or to prevent there client.... a rip off . crowd is very good.

Anonymous wrote on June 20, 2011 at 10:34 PM:

You have to leave your belongings in the counter specially phone.. sometimes crowd is shit alot of theft guys in this club. please carefull of your belongings.

Anonymous wrote on August 4, 2011 at 12:37 PM:

Pls help me kng ppano mka punta dun sa CB?my plan ako pmunta ds coming aug 05,2011 pr sa aug 09,2011..anyone willmg to help?...let me know pls...

Tel# 585-5272


Anonymous wrote on August 4, 2011 at 12:52 PM:

585-5271 pla..
Not 585-5271zz


Anonymous wrote on August 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM:


Not 585-5272..


Anonymous wrote on August 5, 2011 at 4:45 AM:

kasya pa kaya ang towel sakin, laki ko na kc. size 36 gmit kong pants. gusto ko ulit punta dun, tambay lng. at manood ng magagandang ktawan. at mkihipo nrin sa dark room

Anonymous wrote on August 5, 2011 at 4:46 AM:

gusto ko makatikim ng guard...

Anonymous wrote on September 1, 2011 at 6:59 PM:

I'm only 21 and I went to Club Bath last week without doing proper research on the possibility of acquiring HIV from that place. Now I'm shit scared. How true is it that most members of Club Bath are HIV positive?

Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on September 1, 2011 at 10:04 PM:

@Anon (Sep 1), whether what you said is true or not (and it's next to impossible to find out for certain), always, always, always practice safe sex!

There is always some risk of acquiring HIV when you have sex in a bathhouse, or with an EB you met online, or even with a guy who is a friend of a friend. The risk doesn't increase simply because you have sex in a bathhouse, but the risk increases because you engage in unsafe sex practices.

Anonymous wrote on September 3, 2011 at 12:53 AM:

Oh I should stop panicking. Can you acquire HIV from giving a blow job?

Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on September 3, 2011 at 1:06 AM:

@Anon, yes, there is some risk in acquiring HIV by giving a blow job, but it is generally very, very small compared to unprotected anal sex. The risk increases if you have mouth sores or gum problems. If the guy cums in your mouth, the risk increases a lot more.

Just to be very safe, use a condom. And be very careful with your teeth.

For more information, check this page from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and click on "Can I get HIV from oral sex?":

Anonymous wrote on September 28, 2011 at 8:35 AM:

Pede bang magpasama ako jan...sinasabi n sa aken ng frend ko yan,,kasu takot ako pumunta..heheh txt nyu nman ako kung sinu gusto samahan ako here is my nos.(09168268859) pkilala kayu lng para ok...ah..salamat..Discreet ako, matino,,pero mahilig ako sa excitement hhehe...JOLO

Anonymous wrote on October 30, 2011 at 11:05 PM:

Can someone please tell management to spray Lysol all over the place? Thrice i've gone there and I end up getting a nasty rash at my back after simply sitting on their chairs and leaning against the backrest. Grabe! I hope this is just a bad case of dermatitis and not herpes.

Anonymous wrote on November 4, 2011 at 9:39 PM:


1. Take note of my grammatical corrections with annotations.

Can someone please tell the management to spray Lysol all over the place? (What time? Are you referring to the whole Club Bath including the registration area?) I have been there thrice and got some rashes at my back after simply (Why simply?) sitting on the chairs (Where is it located? I believe that there are many chairs in the area.) and leaning against the backrest (Vague choice of noun.) Grabe! (Why switch to Filipino expression?) I know (Hope sounds pessimistic.) that this is just dermatitis, and not herpes.

2. Now, for my brief response:

I have been there thrice (same as you) and sat in the lounge chairs (definitely not on the table or the floor) as well as the reading room couch and locker room wooden seats. Sexually transmitted disease or skin disease wise (with regard to your observation/musings), I have never acquired it so far. This is not in defense of the management but from a client's viewpoint.

3. You don't have to thank me for such a simple American English grammar check. I suppose that you are aware of that.

Anonymous wrote on November 7, 2011 at 4:28 PM:

I just wish CB would invest on mouthwash.

Also, did you guys ever notice that tattoed Chinito hunk? He's probably in his mid-30s. He speaks English, with what sounds like an american accent. And he always gets the room next to the stairs in the second floor. he's such a hottie!

Anonymous wrote on November 13, 2011 at 10:07 PM:

who'll be going to the club tonight? text me: 09053128320

Anonymous wrote on November 19, 2011 at 5:05 PM:

i went to club bath last tuesday, nov 15, sobra HOT... nag ORGY dun mismo sa 2nd floor, sa may smoking area... pinagkaguluhan yung isang HUNK GUY... he is tall, tanned, wavy hair, mukhang model.. GAME na GAME sya..he kisses on the lips, pila lami lahat sa kanya, he has big dick, erect and so hard, wala arte sa katawan. sa steam room, may action din. orgy din nangyari..sarap talaga last tuesday. balik ako ulit dun.

Anonymous wrote on March 25, 2012 at 4:40 AM:

sino pupunta sa club bath tonight?
meet tayo sa 7eleven harrison 6-7pm

Anonymous wrote on June 4, 2012 at 11:14 PM:

ive never tried this.. cn anyone accompany me.. just got back from the philippines.. gusto ko matry to.. just scared to go there alone.. 09235798303

james wrote on July 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM:

i finally went to club bath last sunday.. wow,,.. crowds are better much nicer.. kind and its very clean and best experience ever... i wanna go there again.. 09235798303who wants to come the last time i replied here i never tried it look above hehehe.. but im happy i tried it.. i wanna come back again

Anonymous wrote on July 10, 2012 at 2:44 PM:

some1 here wants to explore going to cb but is too scared cguro sa sakit ..khit once maexperience lng..

Anonymous wrote on July 24, 2012 at 7:24 AM:

My first visit there was beyond haven. I had intimate sex someone from Costa Rica, China, UK, and ofcourse from PH. All of them are hotties!

jebit wrote on August 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM:

Just want to experience to go there at can text me if u want, 09052659677

jebit wrote on August 15, 2012 at 1:32 PM:

want to go there at cb.....i can join you if u wanted too...just txt me 09052659677

Anonymous wrote on August 20, 2012 at 5:47 PM:

just had my first xperience at cb yesterday! apat sapat! :-)

Anonymous wrote on August 20, 2012 at 5:50 PM:

galing ako kahapon sa cb. first time ko dun. apat agad.. :-)

Anonymous wrote on August 20, 2012 at 11:27 PM:

may bikers ba na pumupunta dun? may gear fetish ako eh...

Anonymous wrote on August 21, 2012 at 1:20 AM:

good to know.. kamusta Enjoy?

Anonymous wrote on September 7, 2012 at 2:18 AM:

wala ma ako budget ,,, samahan ko kayo sa loob kung basta sagot nyo ako 09487606733 matt

Jv wrote on September 8, 2012 at 4:44 PM:

What's the guard's number?

Anonymous wrote on September 17, 2012 at 3:21 AM:

bkit ung guard trip mo?

Ivor wrote on November 24, 2012 at 8:22 PM:

bukas ba ang the mansion?

Anonymous wrote on January 14, 2013 at 5:31 PM:

I was sitting in the sauna at Wensha Spa (Pasay) a while back when I noticed this chinito guy in his mid-40's checking me out. I obliged and we ended up touching each other. But because Wensha is not very conducive for anything like that, nothing else happened. That's when he asked me if I've ever been to "CB". Never heard of the term, I asked what does "CB" stand for. He gave me a "shocked" look and went on to explain about the place. That's when I started searching the net for "CB" and found this blog.

Now, I think I have mustered the courage to visit CB. Any tips will be appreciated, of course. Thanks for a very helpful blog, by the way.

Anonymous wrote on January 18, 2013 at 8:52 AM:

pumunta ako kagabi sa CB ang ganda lahat may action sa Steam, smoking area at sa 3rd floor malapit sa lanai..

Anonymous wrote on January 28, 2013 at 1:30 AM:

i was at cb last night.. daming yummy talga.. hehe

jimmusan wrote on January 29, 2013 at 11:23 PM:

pumunta ako sa club bath last week ang saya at daming action sa smoking area, lanai, dark room, steam room din.. jus ko ang daming foreigner din.. Daming gwapo dun sana makabalik ako dun next month!!

jimmusan wrote on January 29, 2013 at 11:26 PM:

sana makapunta kayo guys!!

Anonymous wrote on February 1, 2013 at 3:50 AM:

is there someone who can refer me? sabi nila hindi ka raw papasukin kung walang nagrefer this true?

pls contact me..09166464225, thanks

Anonymous wrote on February 1, 2013 at 10:06 PM:

....Is CLUB BATH the NEW EPITOME? When in fact it is just less than a kilometer away from PASAY CITY HALL....PASAY CITY POLICE STATION ....PASAY CITY HALL OF JUSTICE and also PASAY CITY JAIL!....

Anonymous wrote on February 21, 2013 at 4:31 PM:

Hey, one question, is Club Bath open for gay bears weighing 180lbs and up (say around 200 lbs)? Planning to go but not sure if I will fit into the crowd... a reply will be much appreciated

Anonymous wrote on February 27, 2013 at 5:12 PM:

....opinion ko lang naman noh!'s all boils down to the question...."what is your type?"...dati kasi as per word of mouth...bath scene is a place for hedonism...beautiful people looking for beautiful people!....but fairly recent "chubs" are entering the scene..lalo na yung muscled chubs or bear daddies na tinatawag....I am not raising your hope..pero kung hindi ka susubok hindi mo makikita ang resulta

Anonymous wrote on March 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM:

Anon Feb 27:

Thanks, you have a point, maybe I'll try later.

Anonymous wrote on March 21, 2013 at 6:42 PM:

It's my first time to visit CB last Tuesday March 19, 2013. And I met someone in the steam room who asked my number (regretting what I did). I hope I can see you again. The one followed me to the smoking area (2f).

paul caballes wrote on March 30, 2013 at 3:11 AM:

hi to all!! :)
i just like to ask if there is no age requirement in CB??
im freakingly excited to go there. >.<

Anonymous wrote on April 5, 2013 at 1:14 PM:

A quick background - I heard about CB from another guy I "run into" at a different spa (see Anonymous comment posted on 01.14.13). A month after the post, I visited the place for the first time. Here's my take...

First off, there's no other place online you can find a more informative site about CB than this one. Kudos to the blogger ("Vince"?) for a good job. The information here is extremely helpful especially for a first-timer.

Having said that, do not expect that the floor plans provided in this blog will be of any use for your first visit. One, your heart beat will be faster than normal and really, upon getting there, the last thing you would be thinking about is the floor plans you saw here. Second, the place is just dark. In fact, too dark (esp. when you first get in) that it'll take a while before you'd realize you're going in circles. It's really not a big deal because guys go around the place seemingly wandering aimlessly. You won't feel like a fool, I promise.

My experience was, in most people's books, at the most "passsable". I am picky, so that's probably one of the main reasons. I've been followed by a few but none picked my interest, so to speak. I ended up hanging out with one other guy who seemed just as picky as I am and all we did was pretty much "do the dance".

Next week, I'm going back, hopefully with a little more "know how" this time around. I didn't expect much from my first visit so I wasn't that disappointed. The next time is a different story, however. So, if you want to meet up, I'll keep checking back this thread and then we'll start from there!

Anonymous wrote on April 18, 2013 at 11:35 AM:

Punta ako mamaya :)

Anonymous wrote on April 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM:

Im still a virgin when it comes to bath houses. I need someone na magdadala sakin sa CB. Here's link to my profile to know me more...

Anonymous wrote on April 22, 2013 at 7:13 AM:

what day marami tao dun? kahit hindi weekend marami pumupunta dun?

Anonymous wrote on May 5, 2013 at 4:00 PM:

i want to go to cb.. who can accompany me to go there? 09228877505

Newbie wrote on May 15, 2013 at 3:13 PM:

I want to go to club bath but I'm not sure if it's safe going home at 2 or 3am. I need someone to go with me.

Anonymous wrote on May 19, 2013 at 5:01 PM:

hey newbie, don't worry its still safe..

wildjosh wrote on May 20, 2013 at 12:19 AM:

Magkanu po membership and entrance? What time operation ng CB?

Anonymous wrote on May 22, 2013 at 8:32 AM:

Great post... Thanks!

Thinking about trying it myself... Never been in such a place... All I've done so far was suck my massseur a bit in a Massage Parlour a couple of times back in Thailand...

I guess beeing married makes everything much more complicated... ;)

JUST A QUESTION? If I want to have rubbers inside (just in case things get wild), am I not supposed to leave everything behind at the entrance, except the towel and the flippers...?

Thanks... By the way, if someone wants to go, we might just try together... No Mobile because of my wife, but you can contact me at

Mike wrote on May 29, 2013 at 9:38 AM:

I met Jojo on Saturday, May 25. I invited him to my room and gave a massage. He was so nice, hot and sexy. if you happen to read this message, I want to reconnect with you. I had a great time with you. Thanks.

Anonymous wrote on May 30, 2013 at 4:40 PM:

ano yung number ng secu??

Anonymous wrote on June 8, 2013 at 12:18 AM:

anjan pa ba yung secu guard?? 2011 pakasi yung post. thanks..

Anonymous wrote on June 9, 2013 at 7:44 AM:

ALex here. ano number ng guard tol? where can i email you?

Blue wrote on June 9, 2013 at 5:57 PM:

Gusto ko pumunta ng CB kaya lang wala ako makasama. sino pwede? young guy here but at legal age.

Anonymous wrote on June 11, 2013 at 6:38 AM:

Blue leave ka contact number sabay tayo... tas hanapin natin ang guard... ALex

Anonymous wrote on June 11, 2013 at 10:33 AM:

Samahan kita sagot mo ako hehehe fb ko ttam ocab

Anonymous wrote on June 11, 2013 at 10:39 AM:

Admin panu nga pala gawin ko member ako ng cb club my record naman sila kaso nawala ko yung card ko, kung punta aku panu dapat ko gawin

Anonymous wrote on June 17, 2013 at 2:23 AM:

Tried going there tonight, pro dumating ako around 1:30am na kasi nahirapan ako hanapin ang lugar. until 2am lng pala sila. Sino gusto sumama next week na lng....>alexo

Anonymous wrote on June 22, 2013 at 3:06 PM:

Bakit nyo hanap yung guard

Anonymous wrote on June 23, 2013 at 10:25 PM:

@alexo, pumunta kba? punta ako within this week, now sna kaso dame ko inaayos e.

Blue wrote on June 28, 2013 at 8:09 PM:

sama ako. what time ba open nun? never pa ako naka experience nga ganun. hehe

Anonymous wrote on June 29, 2013 at 9:16 PM:

I'll go later :)

Alexo Vargas wrote on June 30, 2013 at 11:08 PM:

ALEXO here.
@ blue. pupunta sana ako now (SUNDAY) kaso i had an impromtu date with a friend. parted at around 10:30 so it was kinda late again for me. hanap ako kasama.

email me at july 4 punta tayo?
sino wala pasok?

Alexo Vargas wrote on June 30, 2013 at 11:09 PM:

6pm open ng CB. the earlier the better kasi until 2am lng sila.

Blue wrote on July 7, 2013 at 10:30 PM:

nag email na ako sayo bro. sorry late reply Alexo.

Anonymous wrote on July 12, 2013 at 7:17 AM:

I want to go there also na curious lang had baptism sa SG bathhouse now I want to experience here sa Pinas can someone accompany me? 09279962080 my number

Nestor Reyes wrote on August 4, 2013 at 6:56 PM:

Hi guys, samahan nyo naman ako sa Bath house na ito first time ko eh 0999 993 9423, txt nyo lang ako guys

Anonymous wrote on August 7, 2013 at 2:19 PM:

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Anonymous wrote on August 7, 2013 at 2:21 PM:

kung gusto nyo pumunta sa CB samahan ko kayo basta libre nyo ako or sa MANSION punta tayo txt me asap 09465433944

Anonymous wrote on August 7, 2013 at 2:23 PM:


gusto u pumunta dun sige samahan kita txt u me asap 09465433944 punta tayo dun treat u me ha

BLUE wrote on October 8, 2013 at 12:25 AM:


Edmund Co wrote on October 21, 2013 at 10:58 AM:

is any one knows about "Mansion club bath", e-mail nyo naman ang address at kung paano pumunta don?

Anonymous wrote on January 31, 2014 at 10:39 AM:

ano oras open ng club

Anonymous wrote on February 3, 2014 at 7:11 PM:

im interested.,can someone bring me there!!! search hotjared @ planetromeo., my pics are posted there.,=?

Anonymous wrote on February 6, 2014 at 3:15 PM:

January 31, 2014 Anonymous
CB opens at 6pm Monday-Friday
3pm During weekends and Holidays

Anonymous wrote on March 18, 2014 at 4:49 PM:

09152726045. Sino pwede kasama?