Apr 20, 2008

The raid at Queeriosity Palace

Migs was the first to break the news about a police raid that occurred at Queeriosity Palace (Multiply site) at around 1 a.m. last Saturday morning, April 19. Queeriosity Palace is this new gay bath house that just recently opened on April 5 and it is owned by Wilbert, who also owns Fahrenheit Cafe in Quezon City. All the patrons and staff in Queeriosity that night were detained at the Pasay City Hall. It's not clear what the charges were but the clients were eventually released at around 4 a.m.

lOOking4LoVE, a Guys4Men member, was one of those detained and a he recounts his experience in a thread (log-in needed) at the G4M forums:

"So traumatic. My first time. and we're busted. hay. [...] kailangan daw isama lahat para malaman kung sino employee at customers. after malaman, yung customers papauuwiin daw. pero antagal namin dun. nagpapaimportante pa siguro. parang hostage tuloy kami. na hanggat walang lagay ung may ari e di kami papauwiin. [...] ang kaso kasi, ung boss police medyo mainit. naninigaw. tapos lagi may panakot mga police na ipapatawag mga pamilya ng mga nahuli e mga tago pa namn kami. dapat talaga alamin kung ano ang kaso kapag nandun. bakit hinuli? ano kaso? kaso pag instant na naandun ka mahirap pala. nauunahan ng kaba."

In the same thread, Wilbert has given his testimonial and he claims that the police told him that the tip-off came from The Mansion, a gay blue bar also in Pasay City (quote edited a bit for clarity):

"Sa mga members [na nandoon] kaninang madaling araw, sorry for what [happened] awhile ago. Kaya kayo sinama sa presinto, they just want to check kung may prostitution nga talaga sa Queeriosity at kung talagang member kayo or staff or mga bayaran. Pero, 'di ko kayo hinayaan alam n'yo yan. You're all in good hands. Ayon sa report, ang complainants ay Mansion; sila ang nag-report. Don't worry guys, this will be [the] first and the last hassle para sa Queeriosity members. Rest assured it won't happen again. [...] To Mansion management: kailangan ko [i-voice-out] itong ginawa n'yo sa akin at para malaman ng gay community. [...] Queeriosity is still open for business."

Read the thread to get a better feel for what happened and so that you can make your own decision on how to view the incident.

In an e-mail letter, which was posted in a thread at the PinoyPride.Org forums, Danton Remoto, chair of Ang Ladlad, a gay party-list group that was denied by COMELEC to run in last year's national election, shares his statement and some advice:

Dear Friends,

At 1 am, a member of the gay community sent me a text message saying that police had raided Queeriosity Bath House in Pasay and brought lots of gay men in the Pasay City Hall. Queeriosity is owned by Wilbert, who also owns Fahrenheit in QC. They were asking me for help, and for me to bring lawyers..

Unfortunately, I slept at 12 midnight. I had gone through two radio interviews and two TV interviews regarding the Cebu rectal-surgery scandal and had taught two summer classes at the Ateneo. I also contacted the lawyer of the victim so Ang Ladlad could extend counseling and legal help to him. was only able to get an update this morning at 8 am.

My friend said the gay men were sent home at four am. When I asked if the gay men paid a "token fee," my friend did not text back anymore.

What to do when the police raid a bath house?

1. Calmly go with them and make sure you have your ID.

2. Do NOT make a statement if you do not want to, nor sign anything. You should do these in the presence of a lawyer.

3. Do NOT give in to the offers of financial arrangement. You have not done anything wrong. The police raid bath houses before June (school opening) and December (Christmas) because they need money for their families.

Also, the police raid the bath houses in search of sex workers, implying that these places are fronts for prostitution. They still cannot understand that gay men-to-gay men sex is possible. Makitid talaga ang isip nila.

4. After 12 hours (minimum) or 18 hours (maximum), the police should bring you to the fiscal's office for arraignment, prior to filing a case. If not, you can file a case against the police for illegal detention. Eto ang ikinatatakot ng mga pulis, illegal detention charges.

In all the cases we handled against the police, we won because we were able to prove that bath houses and/or gay bars (yung walang nagsasayaw) are not fronts for prostitution at nag-iimbento lang ang mga pulis.

So keep your cool, keep calm, you are entitled to make at least one phone call using the police telephone and to have access to a lawyer.

Just for your guidance. Have a safe life.

Cheers,
Danton Remoto
Chairman, Ang Ladlad Party List

Interesting words I must say, but while there may ultimately be no legal cause for the detentions and while the cynics in us may call this as just another case of police corruption, the fact is, incidents like this are embarrassing for the discreet PLU. You may not end up in jail but you might out yourself inadvertently to people you care about. Ultimately, it's just a matter if going to these places is a risk you're willing to take. It's a good thing that in the Queeriosity raid, there were no media present, unlike "Oplan Lollipop" where on February 19, 2003, policemen from the Central Police District raided Alta Theater in Cubao at the behest of ABS-CBN mediamen who accompanied the law enforcers with cameras blazing.

What is the legal rationale for these raids? The charges that can be raised stem from three provisions in Philippine Law: 1) Article 201 of the Revised Penal Code or the provision against "immoral doctrines, obscene publications and exhibitions and indecent shows," 2) Article 202 of the same Code, also known as the Anti-vagrancy Law, and 3) Republic Act No. 9208 otherwise known as the Anti-trafficking in Persons Act of 2003. I'll tackle more about these laws and the phenomenon of raids in future articles.

12 comments:

lobster-tony wrote on April 20, 2008 12:56 PM:

Nicely written and I'm very interested to read what you have to write about the anti-trafficking in persons act.

 
Mugen wrote on April 20, 2008 2:12 PM:

Thanks for the detailed information vince. Nako nirecommend ko pa naman na gawan mo ng review ang QP. Pasensya na. :)

I think it was Club Bath who tipped QP. Shempre competition eh. Just like what I've said in my blog, what's so sad is that we're the ones who are destroying ourselves.

 
Vince wrote on April 20, 2008 5:44 PM:

Tony, thanks. Just wait for that article (but it probably won't be the next one, hehehe.)

Mugen, no, it's ok. Who knows, when the heat dies down, maybe I could visit QP in the future. Hehehe. I think the Mansion tipping off Pasay City police is more plausible than CB. CB is CB and based on my experiences there, CB has its loyal clientele and I don't think CB would feel threatened by QP.

 
Kai Santorino wrote on April 20, 2008 11:48 PM:

interesting read. very informative.
Danton Ramoto is correct (i mean, why wouldn't he..hehe).

I myself have been a victim of this. THough in my case, we were [just] brought to the police station because 'we were caught doing something'. Most of the time, they charge you with vagrancy but since in my case we were in a theatre house, they couldn't think of the appropriate charge to file.

Plus the fact that we were just ABOUT TO DO THE ACT, we were not caught doing it.

In the end, I was released, but the guy I met that night gave money to the police. He had no choice he said.

Read here:
http://kai-alibis.blogspot.com/2007/07/day-i-got-caught-by-police.html

 
Anonymous wrote on April 21, 2008 12:33 PM:

huh! i was there, myself! pano ka naman makikipaglaban sa police kung itinatago mo nga ang sarili mo? di ba? and yun yung isa sa mga ibinebenta ng club...yung discreetness...yung privacy...and then all of a sudden bigla ka mata trapped sa ganung sitwasyon!? nakaka panlumo..nakaka trauma...first time ko pumunta sa QP ganun pa nangyari...if i can still remember what the policeman has said..business permit issue ang dahilan...anyway, i might still go back to qp siguro after a month or so hehe

 
Anonymous wrote on April 21, 2008 2:16 PM:

i was one of the persons who was raided at around one am i saw 2 men on the second floor taking pictures. I was curious so i ask the man if it was related for an advertisement of QP. They suddenly the other guys was taking pictures of the two guys inside the cubicle. Then suddenly they told us to dress up. and the two guys handcuffered. That was my first time and it was so scary. The manager then came defending the club but later was arrested by the arrogant chief of police. At that point with no one defending us we dont know what will happen next. Then we were instructed to go out one by one inside a jeep while a guys in front of the door was taking indiviual pictures of us and a lot of people in the neighborhood was looking at us. At that point i was so ashamed. I felt i was a perverted gay criminal. I could not still believe i was in that mess where i have only seen those raids on Televisions. DYAHE TALAGA!!

 
Vince wrote on April 22, 2008 12:40 AM:

Thanks guys for sharing your personal experiences. Be thankful that there were no media present and that at least your exposure was restricted to the neighbors and the policemen.

As I've said, it's all just a risk that we should weigh. I guess if you're not prepared to out yourselves fully, then you should go to the more wholesome places in the meantime.

 
Kai Santorino wrote on April 22, 2008 10:55 AM:

it's ALWAYS risky to go to these places.

One thing though: You mentioned that the owner of Queeriosity also owns Fahrenheit? I remember a few years ago he was also involved in a feud which resulted to Cine Cafe or some bath house being raided.

So he must really have a lot of enemies? Just asking

 
Vince wrote on April 25, 2008 12:04 AM:

Kai, I'm not knowledgeable on the Cine Cafe issue so I can't comment on that. And yes, apparently, QP is the long-talked about "branch" of Fahrenheit somewhere in the south.

 
joelmcvie wrote on May 4, 2008 1:50 AM:

"I think the Mansion tipping off Pasay City police is more plausible than CB."

Er, wait a minute. So The Mansion is different from Club Bath? How come several people have told me before that The Mansion IS Club Bath. Or have they all been mistaken all along? Sana you can find a way to clarify this.

Anyway if it's true then I agree that it's a sad mistake. Having your competitor raided actually hurts everyone, not just your competitor.

 
Vince wrote on May 6, 2008 12:21 AM:

McVie, hey thanks for visiting. Well, as far as I know, there's a separate blue bar/bath house called D' Mansion also in Pasay very near the LRT line. There are many threads about D' Mansion in G4M and you can check this PPO thread.

I think the confusion is because Club Bath is built from an old mansion itself, so I guess some patrons nicknamed it the Mansion.

 
Anonymous wrote on May 26, 2008 5:37 PM:

Vince,

Sa tingin mo kaya mauulit pa yung raid sa Q? Worried kasi ako dun sa ex-bf ko kasi mahilig sya magpunta sa mga bath house (kaya nga kami nag break kasi di sya makapagpigil...hehehe)

Thanks po sa mga info nyong lahat.