Sep 25, 2010

Queeriosity Palace raided again!

It had been a busy Friday for me so it was only now that I got to read comments on this blog saying that Queeriosity Palace was raided by Pasay police yet again. The raid apparently happened early Friday morning, September 24, during the monthly Full Moon Party of the said bathhouse. Since September celebrants get in for free and and there is a macho dancing show that night, there would definitely be plenty of patrons inside the establishment. The police allegedly entered the place between 1 and 2 a.m., rounded up everyone—dancers, staff, clients, and the manager—and brought them all to the precinct. The supposed charge was a violation of a city ordinance against male prostitution.

Update: I’ve posted more information I learned regarding the raid.

Update 2: TLF Share, whose representative was at the precinct, has released a report on the raid.

GMANews.TV has posted an article about the raid Friday afternoon. Here is an excerpt:

Authorities arrested 10 men during a raid of a club in Pasay City before dawn Friday, a local police official said.

PO2 Fernildo de Castro told GMANews.TV that the 10 men were allegedly male dancers of the "Queeriosity Palace Co." club along F. B. Harrison Street.

Authorities confiscated several items from the club including a box filled with lubricants, condoms, and pornographic digital versatile discs (DVDs).

The first comment about the event on my blog came Friday morning at almost 8 a.m., presumably after the anonymous commenter came home from the precinct. He said, “for the second time...Queeriosity Palace was raid again last night...truly embarassing and a night of shame...”

A more extensive comment came a few hours later, telling us the sad story:

it was again raid this morning September 24, 2010 on the same basis....at nakaka-inis lang naman kasi yung scenario was i think the same reason why it was raid the first time. kung alam nyo lang yung mga nararamdaman namin nun.. at 1AM Sep. 24 biglang me pumasok na police officer tapos sabi raid daw..so pinasok isa isa yung mga cabin, pinagbihis yung mga tao at dinamppot sakay ng mga jeep papunta sa presinto, pagdating dun pinapila kami tapos pinasulat mga pangalan namin para daw we were 105 customers na andun. then si allan the supervisor i believe ng Q was there with a certain friend negotaiting.. the amount was i heard is around 300K pero tinawaran down to 250K pero hanggang 200K alng daw ang tinatawad nila allan.. hanggang sa abutin kami ng pagsikat ng araw..dali dali kami pinapasok sa loob ng presinto at dun kung ano ano na narinig namin... and then there was this police men na kupal talaga pagdating sa pera... sa halagang 1K to 2K per person makaka-alis ka na. luckily i have enough money to save myself, papano naman yung mga customer na sakto lang ang perang dala? ano mangyayari sa kanila.. i mean it should had been avoided na umabot kami sa puntong iyon kung ibinigay lang ng management ng Q yung amount na hinihingi nila.. sa panahong ito wala ng di kayang tumbasan ng pera maliit man o malaki... at dun sa mga pulis na kotong.. makatulong sana sa inyo yung perang nakuha nyo mula sa amin. naway mabusog kayo at swertehin sa buhay...

The alleged extortion makes me so angry. It appears that the violation is just a pretext for siphoning off money from the scared patrons.

It must be recalled that QP got raided back in 2008 soon after the bathhouse started operating. Based on what I’ve been told about the real reason behind the first raid (see my post last year under the section “The true story behind the raid”) and the GMANews.TV article I linked above, the motivation behind these two raids are different contrary to what the commented said.

What I find interesting is that the legal basis for this second raid is a supposed local city ordinance. This is quite novel compared to the usual charges citing either Article 201 of the Revised Penal Code or the Anti-trafficking in Persons Act of 2003, both national laws and not mere city ordinances.

One sad thing is that the PLUs who were subjected to this shameful episode were helpless against the law enforcement officers. I guess we really need to educate people about their rights. Then again, knowing your rights and actually doing anything about it when faced with an actual raid are two different things. Even if you knew the right thing to do and how to fight back, I think most discreet PLUs would rather shell out money rather than have their secret exposed to their colleagues, friends, and family. Money can be (easily) replaced but your reputation cannot. :-(

This raid at Queeriosity, and two recent raids at rundown cinemas makes me think that the “Raid Season” that Lex said is actually true. It’s a sad, sad week for the local PLU community.

55 comments:

Mu[g]en wrote on September 25, 2010 at 5:03 AM:

One must ask, why only Q? There's E to point fingers at.

 
Herbs D. wrote on September 25, 2010 at 9:12 AM:

well thats a place im sure to get off my list to go to.

 
Anonymous wrote on September 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM:

@ Mu[g]en : Not only are you jumping to conclusions, but that's also an unfair accusation, don't you think? It's like saying Che'lu or O-Bar had something to do with Bed burning. You might as well point fingers at F, or M, or CB.

 
Anonymous wrote on September 25, 2010 at 2:06 PM:

yeah why only "Q"..ang dami pang iba diba...pucha inumaga na kami sa kakaantay...ang dulo lang din pala eh magbigay ng lagay sa mga pesteng pulis na nandun...

 
Anonymous wrote on September 25, 2010 at 3:38 PM:

yan napapala ng mga malilibog. bakit kasi hindi na lang kayo mg hotel o sige motel na lang. buti nga sa inyo, puro kasi kalaswaan nasa isip niyo. CHE.

 
Anonymous wrote on September 25, 2010 at 4:07 PM:

Natawa talaga ako. May mga dancers na naaresto sa q.... Buti na lang nakauwi ako nang maaga pagkatapos ng fashion show kuno ng mga macho dancers....

 
Anonymous wrote on September 25, 2010 at 4:31 PM:

you dont have 2 laugh...wala naman macho dancers na nakasama!!! nangyari yung raid na yun after ng show for about an hour na ang nakalipas....

 
Anonymous wrote on September 25, 2010 at 4:43 PM:

Disappointed ako sa q.... di nila naprotektahan ang mga customers nila. Sana binigay na langa ng 250,000 pesos... hinayaan kami na parang nasa concentration camp.... kanya-kanyang diskarte ang ginawa namin para lagyan ang mga pulis.....

 
Anonymous wrote on September 25, 2010 at 4:50 PM:

this is bad. the owner must have his own explanation as well kahit sa blog na lang nya ipost. he's one of the fabcasters right in manila gay guy?

i thought that he is working hand and hand with some government agencies to make sure the safety of his patrons but why it happen?

 
Mu[g]en wrote on September 25, 2010 at 5:21 PM:

Anon 2:

I learned this afternoon that Q is in Pasay while E is in Manila. They have different police departments.

Nuff said.

 
flipfakes wrote on September 25, 2010 at 6:03 PM:

mayor alfredo lim must be trying hard to toughen up his image right after that hostage fiasco.

remember that a cinema in recto was raided two weeks prior. and to think that along the whole stretch of avenida there are girly joints with live shows even in the middle of the day.

tsk. tsk. as usual, queers are the easy targets.

 
Anonymous wrote on September 25, 2010 at 10:44 PM:

This is my account of what happened early Friday morning in queeriosity. Isang karanasang di ko malilimutan. I arrived in queeriosity around 10 pm. napansin ko may pulis na nakamotor na umiikot sa palibot ng Q. Di ko yun pinansin. Mayroon ding sasakyang nakapark sa paligid ng Q. naisip ko baka sa mga parokyano ng ibang club sa F. B. Harrison. So pumasok na ako sa Q. Napakaraming tao. Hindi pa nagsisimula ang Show ng mga Macho dancer.Naglakad ako sa paligid ng Q. kahit saan may tao. Mga ten thirty na nagsimula ang show. Apat na macho dancer mula sa Dreamboyz gay bar na matatagpuan sa Aurora Blvd. Cubao. Okay naman ang show. nag all the way naman sila. Mga 12:30 na natapos ang show. So pumanik na ako. Dapat uuwi na ako. Kaso puno ang mga shower room. so nag-antay na ako sandali. Then mga 1:30 am may pumasok na lalaki na nakaflashlight. Raid daw yun. Pinababa lahat at pinagbihis. Pinakuha sa amin ang Id at mga gamit namin. tapos pinapunta kami sa lounge. Then inincpect lahat ng pulis ang lugar. Nkakita sila ng ebidensya like mga condom...Then pinalabas na kami at isinakay sa jeep. Mga apat na jeep ang kasama. Convoy ang nangyari. Yung mobile ng pulis ang nasa unahan. Parang convoy ng patay kasi ang bagal ng takbo. Dinala kami sa CIDG ng Pasay City. Di kami pinapasok sa presinto muna, Pinapila kami. Mga apat na rows ata yun. Pinabilang kami isa isa. Yung unang bilang 96 ang lumabas . Then yung second cound 112 na. Pinalista ang pangalan at address namin. Syempre kasabay verify sa valid ID namin. Sadly may tatlo ang di nagsulat ng pangalan. Eh di tinawag kami isa isa. Tapos tinawag yung tatlo. I m not sure kung sinaktan ang tatlo or what or pinagalitan lang. Habang nakapila kami pansin ko parit-parito yung manager ng Q Allan ata pangalan noon, basta nakadilaw siyang T Polo Shirt. Siya kasi ang busy noong Show ng macho dancer kaya pansin mo talaga siya. Sabi sa amin ni Allan relax lang, everything will be fine. Yung unang update sa amin. 300 thousand pesos daw ang hinihingi para pawalan kami. Nagtawaran pa sila. Last call ng pulis 250,000 pesos. Pero ang kaya ata lang niya 200,000 pesos. Pero sabi sa amin okay na ang lahat. Pero nagmatigas ata ang pulis na 250,000. Doon na nasira ang negotiattion. May dumating. Nakared t shirt. Pamilyar siya. Lagi ko siya nakikita sa fahrenheit. Sumali na rin siya sa negotiation. Still nagfail ang negotiation. Miniting kami ng dalawa. 500 pesos daw ang bayad namin sa pulis. Pumasok si Allan. Handa na yung charge sheet sa kanya. Anti -Trafficking ang kaso. Habang nangyayari yun pansin namin may isinasama palabas na ang pulis. It means one thing. Binayaran na nila ang pulis ng suhol o lagay. So ang ending pinapasok kami sa loob ng opisina. Under investigation daw kami. Nagkaroon pa ng konting pagtatalo kasi pinabukasan ang kwarto na adjacent doon sa kulungan. Siyempre yung iba matatakot. Its like illegal detention na rin. Napansin ko na may lumalabas. Yun pala nagbabayad sila sa pulis. Nagbayad na rin ako ng 200 pesos. So I have my freedom now. Mayroon lang akong mga katanungan. Una sabi nila walang media. Pero lumabas ito sa Gmanews.tv at Philippine Star. Sabi ng mga pulis kaya kami pinapasok sa opisina upang protektahan kami mula sa media. Pangalawa sabi sa report sampu lang ang naaresto at kakasuhan ng kaso. Sinadya ba ng mga pulis na gawing sampu lang ang matira. Oo nga naman parang di kapanipaniwala na ang mahigit na isang daan ay kolboy. Pwede ring may umamin na may kolboy talaga na parokyano ang Q. Regarding on how the management handled the customers. Mukhang bagsak ang grado na ibibigay ko sa kanila. Una they assure na everything is okay. Na babayaran nila. And they even promised us na may padating na pagkain. Fifty thousand pesos ang naging diperensya kung bakit bumagsak ang negotiation. Bakit di na lang nagsakripisyo ang Queeriosity . 50 thou madali lang yan kitain. Tatlong araw lang. And nasikmura ni Allan na tingnan ang mga parokyano ng Q na puyat, gutom, takot na takot. at gustong umuwi na. kaya nga pagkauwi ko tinapon ko na ang id ko ng Q.....

 
Anonymous wrote on September 25, 2010 at 11:10 PM:

i believe guys we should stop going to places like those..(Queeriosity Palace, F, Club Bath, Mansion and so on) kung ayaw natin masira ang imahe natin sa publiko. nakakahiya yung naranasan natin that morning, isang pagkakataon ng gusto ko ng makalimutan lalo ng yung mga tarantadong pulis na yun.. at dun naman sa taong pinagtatawan yung naging karanasan namin, sana naman e intindihin nyo na lang kami.. its a lesson for us to learned...

 
Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on September 26, 2010 at 3:16 AM:

@Mugen, it was the Pasay Police that did the raid and E is in Manila.

@Anon (Sep 25 11:14am), I don't think Mugen meant that E is to blame but that why wasn't E also raided.

@Anon (Sep 25 3:38pm), hindi kasalanan ng mga customer kung bakit sila na-raid. Walang ilegal sa pagpunta sa bathhouse. Huwag kang mapanghusga.

@Anon (Sep 25 4:50pm), the owner said that a statement is forthcoming but that he can't comment on it right now in order not to preempt some things.

@flipfakes, Mayor Lim had nothing to do with this particular raid since Q is in Pasay, not Manila.

 
Anonymous wrote on September 26, 2010 at 8:17 AM:

laman lang ako ng E yan lang ang pinupunatahan ko... bago kc ang administrayon sa gov. kaya nagraid...salamat sa mga nag comment ag experience nyo at nalaman ko kung ano talaga ang nangyari.

 
Anonymous wrote on September 26, 2010 at 12:52 PM:

I am Allan Santos from Q.

I am very very sorry sa lahat ng mga kaibigan ko at Q members ko na nadamay sa Insidente last thursday. Gumagawa na po kami ng paraan na hindi na po ito mauulit. Sorry po ulit :-(

Sorry sa mga nangyari at sa malaking abala na naranasan nyo noong thursday (Sept.23) Sinubukan naman naming kausapin at makipag areglo habang nasa Q palang pero ayaw talaga nilang pumayag. Naging Physical sila sa akin (tadyak at Batok) sa akin at sa ibang staff ko, ...Pero hindi ako umalis at hindi ko kayo iniwan at kinuha parin nila ang Sales sa Cashier for that night at sa 3 days pang sales. The Whole time eh nakikipagnegotate kami at humahanap ng paraan para mapadali ang release ng mga members. Agree kami na isa ito sa pinaka malala na nangyaring raid in recent memory. Gumagawa ho kami ng paraan para di na maulit... Sorry po ulit....

About po sa pagakain, Mga kapatid, May dumating pong pagkain noong pinapasok na kayong lahat sa loob... Almost 4am dumating ang pagkain dahil niluluto pa ito...
Hindi lahat nakapasok ang pinadalang pagkain hinarang ang halos kalahati nito ng mga pulis...

Awang awa ako sa mga Staff ko ngayun... Pati pala TIP BOX nila na NAKALAGAY sa harap ng front desk na Hindi
nila Binuksan mula pa noong January,kasi balak nilang buksan yun sa
December para sa Christmas Party ay dinala ng mga pulis... pati ba
naman yun Hindi nila pinatawad... Huh!!!WTF!!!

alam nyo, habang ginagawa ko ang sulat na ito, umiiyak ako, Hindi ko kagustohan ang mga nangyari at sana naman kunting pag unawa naman sana at wag nyo naman akong husgahan na pinabayaan ko kayo. ManAger lang ako, Pinapasweldohan lang, Wag nyo naman ibuntong lahat ng sisi sa akin, Parang awa nyo na, Masyadong masakit na para sa akin ang mga nangyari at mas lalong akong nasasaktan ako pati kayo kulang nalang isumpa ako... Hindi ko po talaga gusto mangyari ang lahat ng ito... Maawa naman kayo sa akin, Biktima din ako...

Tandaan nyo to: HINDI KO KAYO INIWAN!

Salamat

 
Anonymous wrote on September 26, 2010 at 1:50 PM:

sana lang allan nagpakita man lang at tumulong ang boss mo para mapabilis ang negotiation o kaya sana nanghingi ka ng tulong sa members. yung 50k na kulang nyo kung nagbigay lahat dun ng 500 pesos e di napunan sana yung kulang. admittedly isa ako dun sa mga naunang nakalabas dahil nagbigay ako ng 1500 sa pulis kasi sa tingin ko talaga at that time e sobra ang panghihinayang nyo sa 50k nyo na walang patutunguhan ang negotiation nyo.sana lang kung magooperate kayo ng ganyang establishment eh na anticipate nyo lagi na kailangan may proteksyon kayo sa mga pulis.siguro monthly retainers para makamura kayo. kasi kung hindi nyo kami kayang proteksyunan eh magsara nalang kayo kasi you are not providing a safe place for us. yun lang.

 
Tony wrote on September 26, 2010 at 2:27 PM:

We are sorry for the incident.

We do take a lot of precaution through legal and extra-legal means to make sure that Q is safe.

It was not about the amount that was the main problem, however it was producing an amount agreed upon in a timely fashion considering all the banks are closed at the time of night. Forgive me for I cannot say that the amount stated is correct or not.

At this time, I cannot make a detailed statement of what transpired in front or behind the scenes of the precinct. I ask for your patience, understanding and forgiveness.

 
Anonymous wrote on September 26, 2010 at 5:20 PM:

guys i woould like to ask what happen na nung nasa loob na ng prisinto.. isa ako dun sa mga nakalabas ng maaga dun.. sino sino yung mga naiwang na 10.. na sinasabing male dancers daw!!!..

 
Anonymous wrote on September 26, 2010 at 5:46 PM:

hindi naman kami nagagalit sa management ng Q andyan na yan eh.. nag nakaka-irita lang e yung mga pulis na kotong.. maiibsan siguro yung mga galit namin kung matuturuan lang ng liksiyon yun mga pulis na nangitil ng pera.. actaully silang lahat pati yung hepe nila mukhang pera din... is there a way we can get their names so we can put them in this blog at ipaabot na rin yung reklamo natin sa mga kinauululan para sila ay matanggal na sa serbisiyo..

 
Anonymous wrote on September 26, 2010 at 9:07 PM:

NEVER AGAIN!

Given na yung policemen natin suck big time! Tang ina nila, kung hindi karespe-respeto para sa kanila ang mga bakla, mas lalong hindi sila sa pinakita nila sa amin that time!

And, never again to Q!
If you're just there to make money but cannot protect your members from these raids, then just close shop! Physically, Allan was there, but the owner(s) and management simply left us to decide for our own.

Ang Club Bath, na-raid na din daw yan dati but the owner and their lawyer were there to negotiate for the immediate release of employees (cos no members were detained).

What they did was illegal detention to us!

NO TO PASAY POLICE! NO TO Q!

 
Anonymous wrote on September 26, 2010 at 11:23 PM:

eto pa guys...Q is inviting all members who were there during the raid last sept 23, to explore and attend sept 27 event for free pa daw.....naku.....di na ba nabahala ang Q management.....me trauma na ilang members....pinabayaan man lang sila during dat raid....nakakahiya........

 
Anonymous wrote on September 27, 2010 at 7:03 PM:

si MAJOR LAGUERDE yung in charge nun at the time ayon sa nakita ko sa org chart nila kung natatandaan ko ng tama. Yung iba eh ayaw magpakilala nung tinatanong nung isang kausap nila.

 
Anonymous wrote on September 27, 2010 at 11:33 PM:

as i see it guys. mukhang talagang ganun na lang siguro yung nangyari sa atin.. but if there's a way na makuha natin yung mga pangalan ng mga kotong na pulis na tauhan ni Major Laguerde and post it to several blog spot para pag-usapan at pag-fiestahan on how kotong they are. dun swabeng ganti na tayo..
Allan of Q, baka naman pwede mo ibigay ang mga pangalan nung mga pulis kotong na ito ng Pasay City CIDG.. stop protecting them.. pera pera lang naman ang usapan ninyo .. at mukha naman wala kayong concern sa members nyo... 112 of which pinabayaan ninyo..
to the Blog Spot Owner/s can you please help us create a page in which mailalahad lahat ng nangyari nung September 24, right from the beggining down to the end plus mentioning of course the names of the kotong police officers of Pasay City CIDG...

 
Anonymous wrote on September 27, 2010 at 11:42 PM:

da manager of Q is just protecting the pulis kotong...kawawa naming kaming mga members na nag antay ng 4 hours dun sa presinto at walang abiso ung manager...walang kwenta talaga,,,,,,,,,,,

 
Anonymous wrote on September 28, 2010 at 1:41 AM:

Guys.... Why should i to protect them? Ako yung nabatukan at natadyakan,madami akong kaibigang nadamay at marami sa Q members ang naging kaibigan ko na rin at mahal ko ang mga members ko... Wag naman sanang ganoon, MakapAg comment lang kayo bahala na ang may masaktan. Guys, Biktima din ako, walang may gusto sa nangyari, wag nyo naman lahat ibuntong ng sisi sa akin lahat. Masyado ng masakit, di ko na kaya yung mga panlalait nyo sa akin. Masakit ang mga nagyari specially sa senaryo na ito (sept.23) Pero mas masakit pala ang katuhuhunang Husgahan ka ng mga tinuring mong kaibigan. Wala po akong ginagwawang masama. Lahat po ay nagkataon lang, Walang may gusto. Pakiusap naman sa inyong lahat, Tigilan nyo na muna ako, Hindi ko na kaya kasi kaya... Parang awa nyo na po...Please...

Q.
ALLAN SANTOS

 
Anonymous wrote on September 28, 2010 at 1:45 AM:

At idadag ko lang po...

HINDI KO PO LAHAT NAKUHA ANG MGA PANGALAN NG PASAY PULIS NA PUMASOK SA Q LAST (SEPT.23)

AT SA USAPANG LEGAL NAMAN... GINAGAWA NA PO ITO NG BOSS KO AT MGA TAONG TUTULONG SA KANYA.

THANKS!

Q
ALLAN SANTOS

 
andrew E wrote on September 28, 2010 at 8:53 AM:

sad. sad. sad... kailangan po ng dobleng ingat. kasama ako nung na raid ang Q noong 2008. talaga namang nakakakaba. i hope the owner will do legal actions kung may kotong na nangyari.

as for gay closets like me, malapit na naman ang PAsko. Magse-celebrate na naman ang mga Pulis ng kaarawan ni Kristo. Kailangan nilang mag-ipon ng ipambibili ng kanilang christmas Decor at handang bonggang bonga sa kanilang mesa. pero dahil kakarampot daw ang nakukuha nilang sweldo, isang paraan ang kotongan para maitawid ang isang malaking gastusing paparating.

makakapal talaga mukha nila no?

expect more raids in the coming days. lalo na kung paparating na ang pasko.

noong nangyari ang raid noon, ay parang enrollment time ata. siguro kailangan nila ng pangtuition para sa mga anak nila.

di bale, may araw din sila. kaya lang di darating ang araw na yun kung walang kikilos para labanan ang mga ganitong pangyayari.

sa may-ari ng Q, sa lugar mo naman nangyari itong kalokohang ito, pede bang simulan mo ang hakbang para naman maipagtanggol kaming mga parokyano mo? Tutal naman, kung mas secured kami sa lugar mo, kaw rin naman ang sasaya dahil kung kami ay secured, mas malaking kita ang i-aambag namin sa yo.

ika nga ay bigayan tayo. give us pleasure and security, and will give the right price for the good service you gave us.

nawa'y mapawi ang mga trauma ng mga baklang kagaya ko sa mga pangyayaring kagaya nito.

 
Anonymous wrote on September 28, 2010 at 2:40 PM:

While both Q and the Pasay Police may have their respective rights and reasons, the best thing for PLUs to do is to stay away from establishments such as Q.

Napakalaking kahihiyan pag nahuli at nakaladkad ka papuntang presinto!

 
Anonymous wrote on September 28, 2010 at 4:19 PM:

yeah thats true....kesa naman maulit pa ulit ung pangyayaring iyon!and if ever man mangyari man yun sana handa ang Q

 
Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on September 29, 2010 at 12:07 PM:

Guys, BTW, the owner of Q has put out a statement regarding the incident.

Also, if you would like to help out with the legal aspects or if you are a victim of the raid and would like to come forward, please send an email to info@queeriosity.com

 
Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on September 29, 2010 at 12:13 PM:

Also, I have two followup posts:

More info on the Sep 24 raid at QP

Know your rights: What the police can or cannot do

 
anonyme wrote on September 30, 2010 at 11:01 AM:

QUEERIOSITY IS DEAD!

 
Anonymous wrote on September 30, 2010 at 11:34 PM:

Banned Queeriosity Palace...

 
Anonymous wrote on September 30, 2010 at 11:41 PM:

GUYS... ITO LANG MASASABI KO HA, HUWAG NA PUPUNTA SA Q STARTING THIS MONTH... PROMISE... NAKA BLOTTER NA ANG Q SA MGA PULIS.... BAKIT KO ALAM? KASI DUN NAGWOWORK ANG FRIEND KO...... STARTING OCTOBER TO DECEMBER, MAY SCHEDULED RAID SILA..... TINAPON KO NA ANG ID KO ..... MANIWALA PO KAYO.... ALLAN... I CLOSE MO MUNA ANG Q... NEXT YEAR NA ULIT MAG OPEN..... KAWAWA ANG BUSINESS MO.. ITETEXT KITA SA MGA SCHEDULED NA RAID....

 
Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on October 1, 2010 at 12:16 AM:

@Anon (Sep 30 11:41pm), madaling magsalita ng kung anu-ano sa Internet lalo na kung anonymous ka. Paano kami makakasiguro na tama ang mga sinabi mo?

 
anonyme wrote on October 1, 2010 at 12:19 AM:
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Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on October 1, 2010 at 1:28 AM:

Please cut it out with the libel.

 
anonyme wrote on October 1, 2010 at 8:38 AM:

can i just say that the blogger of this blog vince is bias he removed my comment about allan santos pagkatao. binabayaran yung blogger na ito at di dapat paniwalaan. vince ibalik mo yung binura mong comment ko. mawawalan ka ng credibilidad pag di mo binalik.

 
anonyme wrote on October 1, 2010 at 8:53 AM:

ibalik nyo ang comment ko bakit kayo nag tatanggal ng comment. bias! ibalik nyo ng malaman nila ang katotohanan!!!

 
Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on October 1, 2010 at 11:45 AM:

@anonyme, did I delete your "QUEERIOSITY IS DEAD!" comment? No. Did I delete other people's comments criticizing Q or Allan? No.

If you will use your brain for a moment and read my follow-up comment, you should realize that I deleted your comment because it was libelous.

Allan may not be an angel, but that doesn't give you a right to break the law and publish unsubstantiated defamatory comments on my blog.

 
anonyme wrote on October 1, 2010 at 6:27 PM:

GUYS BINURA NI VINCE ANG COMMENT KO KASI PURUNG KATOTOHANAN ANG SINABI KO. HWAG NYO PANIWALAAN ANG BLOGS NI VINCE. HE IS NOT CREDIBLE. NGAYON ALAM KO NA PAGKATAO MO VINCE. PATAY KA.

 
anonyme wrote on October 1, 2010 at 6:33 PM:

GUYS BINURA NI VINCE ANG COMMENT KO KASI HE DOES NOT HAVE A BRAIN TO TELL THE TRUTH. ALL HIS BLOGS ARE BASED ON HIS OWN LIES CREATED IN HIS PUNY HEAD. HIS BLOGS ARE ALL FAKE AND SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN TIME TO BE READ. BECAUSE HE JUST PROVED TO ME HOW GAY HE IS. A CHEAP ONE FOR ERASING MY COMMENTS AND LYING ABOUT MY COMMENT. I PITY THE OWNER OF THIS BLOGS WHICH IS VINCE. I PITY YOU.

 
anonyme wrote on October 1, 2010 at 6:38 PM:

GUYS MAY COMMENT AKO BINURA NI VINCE PUNY BRAIN. HINDI SYA DAPAT PANIWALAAN. HE IS A LIAR.

 
anonyme wrote on October 1, 2010 at 6:40 PM:

QUEERIOSITY IS DEAD! AND VINCE IS A LIAR BLOGGER!

 
andrew E wrote on October 2, 2010 at 9:05 AM:

Hey! Folks! Wag na kayong mag away. Birds of the same feather SHOULD flock together.

Di naman tayo ang magkakaaway. Tayo ay pare-parehong bakla, jokla, bekimon, beki, closet, tripper, str8 acting at kung anu-ano pa.

Sa panahong ganito, dapat tayo ay magkakakampi.

Ating alamin at isipin, "Sino ba ang tunay nating kaaway sa panahong ito?" , "Sino ba ang nang-aapi sa atin sa panahong ito?".

Sa halip na magbatuhan tayo ng mga dislikes at iba pa, I think we should all work together for a better world with a big rainbow in the sky.

Magtulungan tayo para makuha ang katarungang kailangan para sa atin. Magtulungan tayo para makamtam ang pagtanggap sa atin ng sangkatuhan.

Naiintidihan ko ang galit ni anonyme. Siguro'y sobrang pagkapahiya ang nakuha nya ng gabing yun.

Let's wait and see. What's cooking. Kung ano ang hakbang ng Q Management. Sana nga ay may ginagawa silang hakbang para dito. Pero mas matindi raw ang kumikilos ng matahimik. Mas effective. Kung wala silang gagawin, it's their loss naman. mawawalan sila ng negosyo dahil mawawala ang tiwala sa kanila ng sangkabaklaan.

Salamat po!

 
anonyme wrote on October 2, 2010 at 9:40 AM:

all i can say is care ko kung mawala ang queeriosity. pinag sawaan ko na ang place na yan so its time na mawala sya. tapos nako sa queeriosity at madami narin silang pera na nakuha sakin kakapunta ko dun at pambobola ng staff nila hahaha. ang pinaka nakakatawa dun. na raid ang queeriosity at the peak of the night may insider sa queeriosity na nagsusumbong sa pulis tas hati sila sa pera. yung manager kaya na si allan santas real name christopher caballero. last time i heard ay nag confess si allan santos sakin that he uses drugs, nag colboi sya ewan ko lang kung until now. nanghiram sya sakin ng pera kasi naubos daw kaka sugal nya sa hyatt casino, there was a time panga na natutulog si allan sa Q dahil naubos nya lahat ng pera nya sa sugal. i asked people from O bar and they did say that allan the manager of Q ay matagal ng palipat lipat sa gay bars sa malate so hes a pro. so this is not libel vince. diretso to sa bibig ni allan santos at mga tga obar. so vince bago ka mag libel libel dyan. eto na ang tunay na katotohanan. ang tony the owner of queerosity sa mga nahuli na members that night. he really doesnt care! ok. all the managers of all sauna baths dont even know him he just keeps to himself pasosyal sosyal eck eck. ako kilala ko lahat ng may ari ng sauna bath at friends with people at obar. but tony he doesnt even make friends with us. so its all business for him ok. hay andami ko pa pwede ikwento but i rest my case. isa lang masasabi ko like what other people said here. tinapon na nila i.d. ng queeriosity dahil pinabayaan sila, sinabi nila safe ang place eck eck chuvanes and look what happened. hahahaha. nakakatawa. its so funny. Queeriosity now is nothing to me. i thank god na na raid sya bec. tumataas ang may aids at call centre ang madami silang guest dont deny kasi may call centre night sila. anyways i dont care for queeriosity tulad ng di nila pag care sa mga nahuli at napahiya that night. so for me QUEERIOSITY IS DEAD! farenheit at epitome mabuhay kayo for taking really really good care of us. yes i am a friend of wilbert i asked him safe ba toh bec. i was so scared and several times he assured me yes! wilbert is always there for me and his staff. epitome as well is always there for me and the staff and sam the manager. allan santos eto totoo ha, nangutang sakin, nagpalibre, nag paturo kung papano mag manage ng queeriosity, hayzz the list is endless. anyways kung tatanungin nyo ko. queeriosity is so over. besides theres a new place na. so isara na ang queeriosity at dun na tayo sa bago. so to the blogger of this blog vince. iha. your not as queer as me and your not as connected. i suggest gumapang ka muna sa history of gayness in manila and rally get to know everybody and how the gay world works. before you start blogging again. thats responsible journalism on your part. kasi kakabura mo ng comments at kakassabi mo ng libel. lumalabas na wala kang credibilidad, at kumakampi ka pa. at naging judge ka pa aba aba aba nag law ata ang lola nyo. so for me Queeriosity is better of dead and closed. ksi i personally know na may insider sa queeriosity kaya sya na raid. as i said sa comment ko na binura ni vince. hwag tatanga tanga.

 
Anonymous wrote on October 2, 2010 at 12:23 PM:

Kalkalan ng baho...
Kalkalan ng basura...

Masyado naman atang bitter ang taong ito.(Yung burado ang comment)

Ang pagkakaalam ko ay Open Book ang buhay ni Allan sa Gay community.
Hindi nya kinakahiya ang mga nagyari sa kanya at lahat ng eskandalong kinasasangkutan nya ay Hinaharap nya.
At ang pagkakaalam ko nagbagong buhay na ito. Nakita ko ang drug test nya last. Pwede nyang ipanampal sa mga taong nangingialam ng buhay na may buhay.

At alam ko rin ang pagkakalulong nya noon sa sugal... Kaya nga umalis muna ito ng manila para magbagong buhay.

Bumalik na ito ng manila para harapin ang bagong buhay at pag asang makakabangon sya. Na Hindi naman sya pinabayaan ng mga kanyang kaibigan at ng gay community. Kong saan sya magpalipat lipat ng trabaho ay WALA NA TAYONG PAKIALAM doon! buhay nya na yun...

Gusto ko si ALLAN dahil tao itong kausap! ito yung taong kung ayaw mo syang kausap at ayaw mo syang kaibigan, umalis ka sa harapan nya, wala syang panahon sa mga taong plastik!

Inaamin kong umutang din sa akin si allan, nabayaran nya to, medyo natagalan ngalang, bumawi naman dahil tinubuan nya ng doble ito.

Nagpapalibre sa akin minsan, natutuwa naman ako sa batang ito kaya minsan lumalabas kami para gumimik...

Bilib lang ako sa batang ito anytime na kilangan mo ng kausap at kilangan mo ng tulong, isusubo nalang nito ay ibibigay nya pa sa kaibigan!
Handang makipagpatayan para sa kaibigan...

Kung may masamang tao dito siguro ay ikaw yun kung sino ka man! (Yung burado ang comment)

tutulong tulong ka tapos manunumbat ka! Ang plastik plastik mo! Ang tanga tanga mo pa!

Wait.. Naguguluhan lang ako. Ang topic dito ay yung pagkakaraid sa Q bakit naman napunta sa buhay ni allan ang topic.

HINDING HINDI MAGSASARA ANG Q! Yan ang pangako sa akin ni Allan! Mamatay kayo sa ingit!

Kung pinag iisipan nyung magagawa ni allan lahat ng mga binibintang nyo sa kanya. Mga hangal kayo!

Kung kaibigan mo si allan, dapat Alam mo ito. Nakulong si allan for 3 days dahil sa poppers last 2007, alam nyo bang inalok sya ng palit ulo. mag tuturo sya sa malate at magkakapera sya at pakakawalan sya...

Madaming natakot pero madaming natuwa sa kanya..

Umalis sya ng manila at tumira sa cebu. tumagal sya halos 1 year. tinanong namin sya kong bakit di nya ginawa ang gusto ng mga pulis:
Ang sagot nya,
MAHAL KO ANG MALATE. MAHAL KO ANG PAGIGING BAKLA KO.

Katangahan ang maniniwala sa mga naninira kay allan!

**JAY**

 
Anonymous wrote on October 2, 2010 at 12:27 PM:

LONG LIVE Q!!!

 
Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on October 2, 2010 at 3:29 PM:

@anonyme, I know for a fact that plenty of what you said is wrong so why should I believe everything you said?

You come barging on this blog with nothing but negativity against Allan and against Q and Tony and expect people to rally with you?

And please, flaunting your connections and name-dropping Wilbert? Do you think Wilbert does not care that Queeriosity was raided last week? I may be not as connected as you are but I really don't care. The gay world in Manila is too big for anyone to know everyone.

 
anonyme wrote on October 2, 2010 at 5:24 PM:

lols. dpa ba tapos toh. so ganto.may kwento. may insider daw sa isang sauna bath na nang uuto ng may ari. may gambling problem daw sya. dating colboi at nag dadrugs pah. may pagka split personality sya. at mahina mag english. so may hati daw sya sa nangyari sa raid. yung batok na un ang staged at aarte lang. gayness to pulis. huy sa raid batukan at saktan nyo ko para di naman halata na kakuntyaba ko kayo ok. with a gay bisayan accent. chuvaness sino sya na dolly anne carvajal kna. vince mali ka nanaman sa mga sinasabi mo. you really should stop writing and really study journalism in U.P. name dropping sabi ni vince? omg that word is so 1960's where the hell did you learn how to write and read. nakakatawa ka na. stop it sumasakit na tyan ko vince.

 
Kiks wrote on October 2, 2010 at 11:29 PM:

this is truly enraging, the raids.

is there something like a gathering where gays can meet up and talk about this + what we can do about it?

i may be a tad late already with the news but somehow i want to be a part of what's being done.

so much homophobia is happening and this is translating into ostracism, gay-bashing and, if not addressed, hate crimes.

 
Vince (Discreet Manila) wrote on October 12, 2010 at 1:58 AM:

Update: TLF Share, whose representative was at the precinct, has released a report on the raid.

 
Anonymous wrote on October 14, 2011 at 6:53 PM:

now ko lang nabasa tong thread n to naalala ko tuloi isang tao n nkakalipas n napasama ako sa raid n yan na inumaga n tlga kami sa presinto kung natatandaan nyo n isang guy n tinawag ng mga pulis at panay ang kwento sa pulis eh ako un,, nilibang ko nlng ang ibang mga pulis dun kc nga sabi nila ndi cla mkapaniwalang bakla ako panay kwento kung ano ano n pinag tatanong sakin kesho daw kung may nangyayaring bayaran sa loob sabi ko nmn uminom lang tlga ako that night at wala akong nagawang kababalaghan dun dahil sa sobrang dami ng tao tapos naiba nmn ang usapan at tinanong ako kung nakain ako ng tahong daw sabi ko puede din nmn kaya nga chickboy ako puede sa chick puede sa boy biglang nagtawanan cla,, hay naku grabe ang nangyari first time ko ma experience pero d nmn ako kinabahan d tlga ako nag labas ng pera at huli n akong lumabas dun parang ayaw p akng palabasin ng mga pulis dahil natutuwa sakin anyway 1 year mahigit nrin akong ndi nkakapunta sa q at wala n akong balak magpunta p cguro ulit,,

 
Anonymous wrote on June 28, 2012 at 11:16 PM:

Fahrenheit was raided last June 23, 2012 by police operatives. More than a hundred of its patrons were brought to Kamp Karingal to suffer shame and embarrassment, including extortion from police.

Sad to say, its owner, Wilbert Tolentino did not appear to help the helpless victims. He had his excuses that was so unbelievable!

So if you are thinking of going to that place, think one million times because it is no longer a safe place---operation bakal among police considers F as its target.

BOYCOTT F. BOYCOTT F. NO TO THAT F CLUBBING. PLEASE PASS.